plovers !

[gonefishin Don #37]

Got an updated page, still we are doomed it seems. The more we
save them the more numbers they hike up.

www.fws.gov/northeast/pipingplover/

[Peter 274]

The five year review is interesting, dry reading but enlighting never the less, appendex B spells out the recovery so far rather well. Pages 211 & 212 of the pdf, page 207 indicates no changes planned.... at the very least it's the most current information I have seen in a while.

www.fws.gov/northeast/endangered/PDF/Piping_Plover_five_year_review_and_summary.pdf

Interesting is all of the windmill discussion

[Just sayin]

I think all they count are the ones directly on the beach. There are probably thousands more in other places, but it does not suit their needs to know that. My sources tell me that only one animal that has ever been placed on an Endangered/Threatened List has ever been moved, and at that, it only moved from Endangered to Threatened. Having a list to fall back on can be very convenient for certain people - I like to call it The Audubon Effect....

[gonefishin Don #37]

Peter - you are right about the dry reading! It took awhile to get through it, but it was worth the effort.

Here's another tidbit making its way around the internet. I would like to revisit the rest of this document. It doesn't mention that most fatalities were from official vehicles, not the recreaion section!!

www.jstor.org/stable/3783382

[Peter 274]

That's an old document, but it sure shows what an a-hole Scott Melvin is, it doesn't mention the span of time involved and also includes private beaches, not misleading at all….
We have lost more birds to predation and weather in one year, than to any vehicles ever, however those type of facts don't serve their purpose, so you won't see a lot of papers written about it. Their goal is and has always been to eliminate us, and quite frankly they are still winning. I believe that the biologists (elitist bigots) have actually kicked it up a notch and now seek to kick everybody and everything off the beaches, until it's just them and the birds, US Fish and Wildlife and the Audubon Society, bird Nazi’s? There’s a parallel for you, in 1935 the German people though Hitler was pretty great also! Hopefully we will persevere, but the battle has already taken a terrible toll on the fishermen and decimated the beach buggies, who knows when it will end. The sad part is they are funded by our taxes and protected by layers of bureaucracy and a public perception that they are doing wonderful things for nature. Now where do I send that donation to

[tattoobob1911]

I wonder if they're even going to open the beach for drive on access this year? I have a bad feeling for some reason

[nance1597]

The plan is to open on Sept. 1 as usual. The problem now is just how much will be open. The beach is basically gone on the South end at high tide so they are thinking no driving south of BB2.

[tattoobob1911]

Well that's good news, thanks Nance

[Just sayin]

I think everyone was willing to "play nice" with the Seashore and the Birders in the beginning, but it's become pretty apparent that nothing but complete closure is going to satisfy them.

Remember, the beach from Herring Cove to Long Point was closed way back in the beginning so the Seashore could do "a study" of dune erosion. At least that's what they told Provincetown residents. It was promised the route would again, at some point, be opened. Well, it's been 30 years or so, and still it's closed. That's a pretty good indicator of the mindset we're up against.

And if anyone thinks the Government is acting in the best interest of the People, do a bit of research and see what NOAA is trying to do to the commercial fishing industry in Gloucester, New Bedford and Provincetown. There is no limit to what these guys are doing, including larceny, breaking and entering into fish auction buildings, and improper accounting of over $90 Million dollars that was collected via illegal fines against fishermen.

As always, the watch words are: "Follow The Money."

We, as a country, ought to be ashamed of ourselves.

[johnmbba1210]

Here is a video about what others are going through with the $#!+ Plovers. JB

www.chinimblelore.com/obx/OBX-Short09.wmv

[sandgypsy2]

Please take the time to watch this video and become involved, this is just around the corner from us. We are not alone!

[mbba201]

BREWSTER – The Cape Cod Museum of Natural History will present a program on the efforts to protect threatened terns and plovers at dozens of beaches on the Massachusetts coast.

The executive director of the Goldenrod Foundation will lead “The Plight of the Piping Plover With Scott Hecker” at 7 p.m. March 15 at the museum, Route 6A.

More Times Breaking News
Program offered on plovers, terns - 6:55 pm Judge won't halt anti-whaling group's activities - 5:39 pm Mass. Senate backs bill on power outages - 5:35 pm Body of missing man found in Harwich - 5:28 pm See All Breaking News Stories »The work of his staff contributed to the rebound of piping plovers from 126 pairs in 1987 to 530 pairs in 2002.

Scott developed the Coastal Bird Conservation Program for the National Audubon Society and has received several awards during his career as a coastal conservation professional at the state and national levels.

Admission is $5 for museum members and $7 for nonmembers.

For further information, contact the museum at 508-896-3867 or www.ccmnh.org.


he's back!!!!!!!
must need money they are charging $5.00 at the Door!

[Mike Sullivan]

>:(For ALL - did a major hike today, 3 -18, from High Head to Peaked Hill - six of the little darlins (NOT) were on the front beach. Is it me, or are they early????f Don't mind most signs of spring, but not happy about this one. Mike

[Peter 274]

Early in...early out! Keep our fingers crossed they are done by July.